This blog contains weekly journal entries for glover's film history class at Champlain College in Burlington VT. The plain template is in effect because it does not crop the youtube imbeds. Students are expected to post a minimum of 1 response a week, plus 1 comment on a peer post. Feel free to add relevant imbeds or links, or to use the blog for related off-topic threads, or to post your presentations for use in class, or viewing after.
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Monday, November 10, 2008
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Your presentation was pretty neat Reid. I thought it was cool that Sin City was entirely filmed in front of a green screen. I think you need some good foresight and be able to conceptualize to work with them. I feel your sentiments about people abusing special effects. Its like a bunch of smoke and mirrors its cool but losing a plot and dialogue is not worth the sacrifice. I wonder how much time using green screens saves and also how much money if any. Good work overall, it would've been cool to what you thought the impact of this technology has on aspects of making film or how people think of film. You did comment on what you think they do for the integrity of films, which was good.
Reid. perhaps i'm wrong, but i think most people have a pretty firm grasp on what green screen is and how it works. (if only from TV news and weather reporting). The sin city sans keying was a good choice to illustrate your presentation, and i think helped to foreground the idea of how difficult it can be for actors to create convincing performances that will match the composited image.
A visual diagram for the film matte discussion would have been helpful, if not a clip to illustrate it as well. The historical grounding i found to be the most interesting. I tend to think of color keying as being fairly computerized and video oriented and it was interesting to learn it has roots in color film, light and filtration. Well done. check this link out and read the comments below on matte painting http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hU9yIw6iXg
I agree that seeing the clips of Sin City really amazed me. I knew it was filmed on green screen but had never seen clips of them in the studio. The movie was actually recently on tv and I watched it and was amazed by it's visual appearance. Green screen can be a very useful tool on film and can make things look better, but I don't know about other people, but I can almost tell right away that something was filmed on green screen. You miss that reality of film with green screen and I think the goal of films is to take you in throughout the movie and hold your attention to the characters and what they're doing. If you have something like green screen where it's obvious that it isn't real it takes the viewer out of the world of the film and makes them judge what they are seeing rather than what is going on. This is the same with breaks in continuity and editing flaws like that. I personally liked the realism of movies like bicycle thief and movies like that show you that you don't need special effect to make a great film. Film is an industry though and amazing special effects are what draw an audience no matter how good the movie is, which is sad. I personally would feel fine if there were no special effects in film.
Digital film has enabled us so many possibilities as you showed us with the green screen examples. On one hand, it is great because you can create worlds using green screen and shoot an entire movie in one room. On the other hand, the realism is lost because going out and finding real locations is a rewarding experience in itself and it looks more natural. Nevertheless, a lot of my favorite movies wouldn't have been made without green screen.
Reid, nice work, real solid choice in terms of clip selection and information shared. I really enjoyed the Sin City clip you chose among the others. One thing that I really thought you would enjoy is a film called The Fall. This film, unlike anything you showed us, was filmed on location in 18 different countries over the course of a 4 year time period. The film's website is: http://www.thefallthemovie.com/, and I HIGHLY recommend that you watch it as soon as humanly possible. I think that even though, as Gordon said, we all have a pretty solid understanding as far as green-screen works, it's always good to reinforce the knowledge because the technology is only becoming more and more prevalent, so what's the harm right?
I enjoyed your presentation. Like others, I was previously aware that sin city was shot entirely in front of a green screen, but it was interesting to see it in action and the before and after shots.
Personally, I prefer realism over special effects. I find it to be more relative and effective in regards to aesthetics. That said, I do respect the effort and style in films such as Sin City... and my opinion may change as the technology does.
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